{"id":5593,"date":"2021-12-04T01:57:07","date_gmt":"2021-12-04T00:57:07","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/classicallradio.com\/articles\/?p=5593"},"modified":"2021-12-06T12:53:11","modified_gmt":"2021-12-06T11:53:11","slug":"novi-album-vladana-maricica-ibar-susret-folklora-i-finog-dzeza","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/classicallradio.com\/articles\/en_US\/2021\/12\/04\/novi-album-vladana-maricica-ibar-susret-folklora-i-finog-dzeza\/","title":{"rendered":"Novi album Vladimira Mari\u010di\u0107a \u201eIbar\u201c: susret folklora i finog d\u017eeza"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>INTERVJU: <\/em>Vladimir Mari\u010di\u0107<\/p>\n<p><em>Pi\u0161e:\u00a0<\/em>Vojislav Panti\u0107<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201e<\/strong><strong>U nekim prilikama sam, u \u0161ali, postavljao pitanje kriti\u010daru Tomasu \u041aonradu za\u0161to je samo Petu Metiniju \u201edozvoljeno\u201c da svira melodi\u010dan d\u017eez i da pritom i dalje ima oreol vrhunskog d\u017eez muzi\u010dara, dok se drugima \u201ezamera\u201c kao vulgarizovanje d\u017eez muzike. \u041aasnije se ispostavilo da nisam jedini koji je uo\u010dio ovakav trend \u2013 Al Di Meola je to nazvao brain jazz, smatraju\u0107i da se favorizovanjem takve muzike \u010dini lo\u0161a usluga d\u017eezu u celini.<\/strong><strong>\u201c<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Pro\u017eimanje d\u017eeza i narodne ornamentike u velikoj meri obele\u017eava rad pijaniste i kompozitora Vladimira Mari\u010di\u0107a. U tom maniru snimio je i novi, jedanaesti album \u201eIbar\u201c (PGP RTS), ovog puta prete\u017eno sa numerama koje su inspirisane konkretnim narodnim pesmama, poput <em>Gde si du\u0161o gde si rano<\/em>, <em>Nizamski rastanak<\/em> ili <em>\u041aad ja po\u0111oh na Bemba\u0161u<\/em>, kao i delima Mokranjca i Gotovca.<\/p>\n<p><strong>CLASSICALL: Dok je \u010de\u0161\u0107i slu\u010daj da se d\u017eez umetnici \u201ekale\u201c izvo\u0111enjem tu\u0111e muzike, pa potom izlo\u017ee svoj rukopis, ti si i\u0161ao obrnutim putem \u2013 najpre napisao i snimio niz tema u duhu narodne tradicije, pa tek sada odlu\u010dio da sastavi\u0161 album na kome dominiraju obrade. Za\u0161to? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft  wp-image-5606\" src=\"https:\/\/classicallradio.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/maricic-400x300.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"337\" height=\"253\" srcset=\"https:\/\/classicallradio.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/maricic-400x300.jpg 400w, https:\/\/classicallradio.com\/articles\/wp-content\/uploads\/2021\/12\/maricic.jpg 640w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 337px) 100vw, 337px\" \/>VLADIMIR MARI\u010cI\u0106<\/strong>: Smatram da to nije puka obrada narodnih pesama, ve\u0107 su u pitanju potpuno nove, d\u017eez kompozicije u kojima se prepoznaje melodija pesme kojom sam inspirisan, ali za koje sam napisao dodatne delove forme koje su postale generi\u010dki deo kompozicije, kao i izveo solo deonice kao potpuno nov muzi\u010dki materijal u odnosu na originalne numere. Recimo, u kompoziciji <em>Platno<\/em>, koja je inspirisana Mokranj\u010devom <em>D<\/em><em>esetom rukoveti<\/em>, nalazi se i melodija koja je deo <em>O<\/em><em>sme rukoveti<\/em>, zatim klavirska improvizacija, kao i solo deonica na basu.<\/p>\n<p>Razlog zbog kog sam sada koristio motive poznatih narodnih pesama je ideja da ne\u0161to \u0161iri krug publike dobije uvid u su\u0161tinu poruke koju \u0161aljem. Album \u201ePrelo\u201c je imao veliki uspeh iako se radilo o mojim originalnim melodijama kao \u0161to su <em>Bolero Negotino<\/em> ili <em>Dodole<\/em>. Me\u0111utim, kada sa kvartetom izvodim <em>Oj<\/em><em>,<\/em><em> Moravo<\/em>, slu\u0161aoci reaguju vidno pozitivno druga\u010dije, bez obzira \u0161to je najve\u0107i deo interpretacije i dalje predstavljaju improvizovane solo deonice. Tajna je u \u010dinjenici da publika odmah prepoznaje melodiju, \u0161to otvara vrata percepcije za ono \u0161to sledi nakon osnovne teme. Ovo je bio osnovni princip tradicionalne d\u017eez interpretacije u prvoj polovini 20. veka kada su d\u017eez muzi\u010dari pa\u017eljivo birali hit kompozicije iz brodvejskih komada. Sviraju\u0107i ih kao osnovu za d\u017eez improvizaciju postizali su efekat prepoznavanja, gde je ne\u0161to obrazovanija publika mogla delimi\u010dno i da razume \u0161ta se de\u0161ava sa melodijama u d\u017eez improvizaciji koja te\u010de kroz istu harmonijsku osnovu.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Sve numere na albumu ti potpisuje\u0161, osim <em>Stani, stani Ibar vodo<\/em><\/strong> <strong>(autor Dragi\u0161a Nedovi\u0107). \u041aako bi objasnio odnos izme\u0111u onoga \u0161to je \u201etradicija\u201c i onog \u0161to je u\u010dinilo da ove numere (pod donekle izmenjenim imenima \u2013 <em>Bemba\u0161a<\/em>, <em>Rastanak<\/em>, <em>Prekor<\/em>, <em>Morava<\/em>) postanu zaista \u201etvoje\u201c?\u00a0 <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>\u010cinjenica da one sadr\u017ee poznatu narodnu melodiju ne \u010dini ih jo\u0161 jednom varijantom narodne pesme ve\u0107 naprotiv, \u010dine novu vrednost koja sadr\u017ei daleko vi\u0161e elemenata, tako da bi pripisivanje autorstva takvih radova narodnom kompozitoru bilo nepo\u0161tovanje sopstvenog kreativnog rada. Princip kori\u0161\u0107enja narodnih motiva za stvaranje kompleksnije muzike koristili su neki od najpoznatijih kompozitora klasi\u010dne muzike, pa tako imamo mnoge \u201egavote\u201c koje nisu obrade nekih seoskih pesama, ve\u0107 ne\u0161to sasvim novo i slo\u017eenije.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u0160ta je, po tebi, mesto najbli\u017eeg susreta d\u017eeza i balkanskog folklora? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Me\u0111u nekoliko ta\u010daka delimi\u010dne podudarnosti najbitniju \u010dine gr\u010dki modusi. Oni su osnov u u\u010denju improvizovanja u d\u017eezu, a s druge strane, kao lestvice karakteristi\u010dne za vizantijski <em>komonvelt<\/em> kome pripada i na\u0161a muzi\u010dka tradicija, predstavljaju i osnovu tradicionalne muzike Balkana. Ovu temu detaljno obra\u0111ujem u knjizi Balkan d\u017eez koju pripremam. Druga ta\u010dka su neparni ritmovi karakteristi\u010dni za jug Srbije i Severnu Makedoniju kao i gr\u010dku Makedoniju i Bugarsku. Sara\u0111uju\u0107i sa brazilskim muzi\u010darima u Londonu otkrio sam da spoj dva neparna ritma daje, naravno, parni ritam, ali sa akcentima koji su karakteristi\u010dni za muziku Latinske Amerike, Brazil, \u041aubu ili Portoriko. Razlike izme\u0111u ritmova karakteristi\u010dnih za ove zemlje su nama minimalne, ali za njih predstavljaju klju\u010dne ta\u010dke prepoznavanja, pa tako postoji <em>Portoriko bomba<\/em>, <em>salsa kubana<\/em>,<em> brazilska klava<\/em>,<em> kubanska klava<\/em>,<em> gvahira<\/em>,<em> bajao<\/em>. S druge strane, osnovni puls d\u017eez svinga na <em>ride<\/em> \u010dineli je upro\u0161\u0107eni model argentinskog tanga, samo ubrzan. Ova eklektika je uvek bila predmet mog interesa.<\/p>\n<p>Ina\u010de, nije svaka narodna pesma pogodna za ovakvu vrstu interakcije, kao ni svaki d\u017eez stil. \u041aada sam radio na albumu \u201ePaganska trilogija\u201c bio sam pod velikim uticajem Majlsa Dejvisa, muzikom sa albuma \u201eNefertiti\u201c, \u201eESP\u201c, \u201eMiles Smiles\u201c i \u201eMiles In The Sky\u201c. U tim kompozicijama koje pripadaju modalnom d\u017eezu prepoznao sam osnovu za implementaciju balkanske ornamentike. Za razliku od toga, u radu na muzici za \u201eIbar\u201c sam za osnovu interakcije uzeo d\u017eez stil iz ranijeg perioda, s kraja pedesetih i po\u010detka \u0161ezdesetih godina.<\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Vladimir Maricic Quartet - Bela bojarka - (Audio 2021) HD\" width=\"697\" height=\"392\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/G2F9VssNe38?list=PLIUHMuuuACiMxYI-OekCtCK8RF87WsH9G\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><strong>\u041aoji je bio tvoj glavni motiv da stvara\u0161 u domenu balkan-d\u017eeza? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Postbap stil izgubio je na dominaciji kada su neki vode\u0107i (avangardni) svetski d\u017eez muzi\u010dari odabrali da dalji razvoj d\u017eez koncepta \u2013 kako eksperimentisanjem sa formom, tako i navo\u0111enjem stila improvizovanja ka dodekafoniji (inspirisani radom \u0160enberga i Veberna) \u2013 poku\u0161aju da vode u pravcu moderne klasi\u010dne muzike. Ja sam, pak, uvek smatrao da d\u017eez improvizacija, koliko god bila napredna, mora da sadr\u017ei neke lepe melodije, prijem\u010dive za sluh prose\u010dne publike. Tako\u0111e sam shvatio da je pitanje identiteta klju\u010dno u karijeri d\u017eez profesionalca i da se onda podrazumeva da po\u010dnem da koristim elemente tradicije sopstvenog naroda kako bih stekao odre\u0111eni nivo prepoznatljivosti. Ono \u0161to me mo\u017eda malo razlikuje od ostalih d\u017eez kolega koji se bave Balkanom jeste poku\u0161aj da elemente balkanske ornamentike uvedem u samu d\u017eez improvizaciju kako bi to bio korak napred u odnosu na ono \u0161to je radio Du\u0161ko Gojkovi\u0107 i drugi muzi\u010dari starije generacije.<\/p>\n<p>S druge strane, poku\u0161avam da u izvo\u0111enju odr\u017eim \u010dvrstu formu i lepu melodiju u improvizaciji, jer nikada nisam shvatio smisao eksperimentisanja sa razlaganjem osnovne forme ili ritma. U nekim prilikama sam, u \u0161ali, postavljao pitanje kriti\u010daru Tomasu \u041aonradu za\u0161to je samo Petu Metiniju \u201edozvoljeno\u201c da svira melodi\u010dan d\u017eez i da pritom i dalje ima oreol vrhunskog d\u017eez muzi\u010dara, dok se drugima \u201ezamera\u201c kao vulgarizovanje d\u017eez muzike. \u041aasnije se ispostavilo da nisam jedini koji je uo\u010dio ovakav trend \u2013 Al Di Meola je to nazvao brain jazz, smatraju\u0107i da se favorizovanjem takve muzike \u010dini lo\u0161a usluga d\u017eezu u celini.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Izme\u0111u epizode kada si sredinom osamdesetih na d\u017eem se\u0161nu u Domu omladine kao klinac upijao svaki pokret slepog Hermana Fostera i dana\u0161njih dana, \u0161ta ti se najva\u017enije desilo na muzi\u010dkom planu? <\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Se\u0107am se tih festivala, na sceni su vladali Mi\u0161a Blam, Mi\u0161a \u041arsti\u0107, Luka Bo\u0161kovi\u0107, Goce Dimitrovski, Jovan Maljokovi\u0107&#8230; Tada sam smatrao da je veliki uspeh ako se \u201eubacim\u201c u d\u017eem se\u0161n postavu u ranim jutarnjim satima i sa strepnjom \u010dekao da se \u201epozove\u201c neki d\u017eez standard koji znam da sviram. Nekoliko godina kasnije sam po\u010deo redovno da sviram sa svima njima, a 1987. sam postao stalni \u010dlan kvinteta Lazara To\u0161i\u0107a. Od tada do danas imao sam priliku da sviram sa mnogim vrhunskim d\u017eez muzi\u010darima i svako novo iskustvo za mene je bilo novo otkrovenje. Ipak, mislim da mi je klju\u010dni podstrek bio poziv da, kao tek dvadesetpetogodi\u0161njak, sviram na Beogradskom d\u017eez festivalu 1990, kada je u programu bio i United Nation Orchestra Dizija Gilespija, kao i big bend Mekoja Tajnera. Jo\u0161 uvek \u010duvam plakat na kome se moje ime nalazi pored imena velikana d\u017eeza.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Vodio si festival u \u0160apcu, organizovao festival srpskog d\u017eeza u Be\u010du, pisao reporta\u017ee sa stranih festivala za novine&#8230; \u041aako se ta iskustva \u201esla\u017eu\u201c sa tvojom osnovnom profesijom?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Manje je poznato da sam uticao i na osnivanje d\u017eez festivala u \u041araljevu i In\u0111iji, a sada poma\u017eem prijateljima iz udru\u017eenja ljubitelja d\u017eeza u U\u017eicu da i oni osnuju d\u017eez festival. Ta iskustva su doprinela da bolje shvatim prirodu posla kojim se bavim, \u0161to mi je pomoglo u organizaciji sopstvenih koncerata. No, borave\u0107i u Peru\u0111i na festivalu Umbria Jazz shvatio sam i koliko va\u017enu ulogu u uspe\u0161noj organizaciji takve manifestacije igraju politika i geopolitika. Veliki evropski d\u017eez festivali predstavljaju vrh piramide kulture tih zemalja. 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